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Turn a list of your debts, APRs and a target into a payoff order with ChatGPT, then check the math

who Sara Rojas, co-owner and creative director of Charcuterie by Bohemian Picnics, a charcuterie shop near Central Park in New York, who also handles finance for the shop and its sister event-planning business, Bohemian Picnics, on the Artificial Reality podcast

What it does

Takes a list of what is owed on each debt, its APR and a target goal, and returns an order to pay things down and which loans to avoid. The same pattern works for payroll, sales ratios, food cost and store pricing.

Tool cost

ChatGPT free plan; Plus $20/mo

Setup

Medium · or we do it from $149/mo

Tools

ChatGPT

The problem

To open the shop she took on loans and credit cards, and she felt she kept going further into debt without knowing what to change.

What happened

Self-reported: it told her things like "Don't take this loan, APR is too much" and which debt to pay first, and for the other finance questions, "within five minutes I had everything, a plan kind of to tackle." No figures are given for money or time saved, and the interview does not say she checked the plan against a second source. A payoff order is a calculation, not professional financial advice.

Quoted in the source: Sara Rojas, co-owner, Charcuterie by Bohemian Picnics. Source: Artificial Reality podcast S2E2: Sara Rojas and Luisa Ramirez, co-owners of Charcuterie by Bohemian Picnics (2026-09-02) · Added 2026-10-16.

How to set it up yourself

  1. What Charcuterie by Bohemian Picnics' co-owner did: she listed every balance, every APR and her target goal, put it all into ChatGPT, and got back a payoff order and advice on which loans to refuse. She then used the same approach for payroll, sales ratios, food cost and store pricing.
  2. DIY path: make a simple list with one line per debt: a nickname (for example, "card A" or "equipment loan"), the balance, the APR and the minimum payment. Do not include account numbers, logins or full lender details.
  3. DIY path: in the ChatGPT free plan, paste the list and the prompt below. Ask it to show its math in a table.
  4. You or your accountant check every number and the payoff order before you move any money or turn down a loan.
  5. Suggestion: reuse the same prompt each month with updated balances, or with payroll, sales and food cost numbers, and have the same person check the results.

Copy-paste prompt

I own {BUSINESS_TYPE}. Here are my debts, one per line, as nickname, balance, APR and minimum payment: {DEBT_LIST}. I can put {MONTHLY_AMOUNT} a month toward debt. My goal: {TARGET_GOAL}. I am also considering this new loan or offer: {NEW_LOAN_TERMS}. Suggest an order to pay these down, explain why, and say whether the new loan makes sense. Show your math in a table with months to payoff and total interest for each debt. List any assumptions so my accountant can check them.
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